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Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

admin — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:28:54 -0000

its all about social position and as much as it has moved on, I recieved the same treatment many of my friends recieved, more qualified but under paid.

My Jamaican and African friends agree that they identify with the sentiment,

there is 2 levels of the N word and it depends on the context in which it is used, if used against a descriptive or limiting word it is wrong if used in combination with social standing it applies regardless of the race, its the struggle to be recognised. I have john lennon in my corner I know where am at.

John Lennon used the word in his song Woman is the Nigger of the World.

As for Elvis Costello he felt the wrath of his own people. the joke is that NIgga is the word used by blacks to determine status from origination often confused with the other N word for the unseen problem.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:44:19 -0000

In admins defence I am absolutely sure there was no bad intent. Its just a word that we should be putting off limits. The only ones who should be able to use it (in any context) is black people, the same applies to pejorative words for Jews, Scots, Irish, or Asians.

I read a few years ago in a music article about the stick Elvis Costello received for using that word in 'Olivers Army' in 1979.At one point it was feared that he would have to cancel his U.S tour. And no one ever thought for a minute that Elvis Costello was a racist.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Janny — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:59:43 -0000

Well said Chris C!

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Chris C — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:34:36 -0000

Yellow card there for Jimbo.Your Jamaican and African mates may not be your mates much longer if you use the 'N' word again.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

N.G. MODS — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:50:11 -0000

i've also got The Stoics 45 some rate it some dont, be your own judge ! we'll get it up on the site shortly

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

admin — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:48:02 -0000

this thread confirms it for me that the glasgow boys were the niggers of the UK... we got soul and we have soul.... It also confirms that it is the reason why I have so much in common with all my jamaican and african mates.....

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Charlie — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:08:49 -0000

No problem NG, would love to hear the album, thanks Felonius, for The Frankie Miller and The Stoics info,brilliant, there is more to these singers, so many bands were influenced,by these Scottish legends, we just want to give them the well earned respect they deserve. Cheers everyone for your input, priceless!!

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Felonious — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:06:08 -0000

How does one start a new topic like

Frankie Miller and the Stoics.

Frankie never recorded with the Stoics but they were sensational live. Find out more here

http://www.mccartneyt.freeserve.co.uk/stoics.htm

Jim Doris their guitarist wrote Oh me Oh My I'm a fool for you baby for Lulu. Her producer Jerry Wexler took it to Aretha and it appeared on her Young Gifted and Black Album. I think Irma Thomas did a version as well.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:28:27 -0000

We could always open up a new discussion on Alex Harvey and The Merseybeats. Did Alex Harvey dress up as a clown in the 1960s ?

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

N.G. MODS — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:02:28 -0000

Charlie, I would like to add that I have Alex Harveys first LP on vinyl, do you want it recorded for the web site ? i did think he done a good version of "Agent 00 Soul" but what this has to do with Dusty and The Meseybeats is anyones guess !!!

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:30:16 -0000

I seem to remember somewhere far back in the distance of time talking about songs in Quadrophenia, and that is why the Dusty v The Merseybeats thing came up.

I have to offer a sincere and heartfelt apology to anyone who has read any of my crap about the less definable songs that are played in the film. I had said that he ska song being played in the background when Jimmy, Spider and Dave went to Brixton looking for Ferdy was 'Madness' by Prince Buster. I watched Quad again last night for the first time in years, and I am now sure (sort of) that the song is 'Blazing Fire' by Derrick Morgan, which does admittedly sound quite like the PB classic.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Charlie — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:16:40 -0000

It's been a blast talking and sharing our memories on the parties, it will give other people tuning in too see us Glaswegians have a sense of "mad" humour, apart from that the Alex Harvey connection is the respect of a lot of Mersey bands had for him during the Alex Harvey Soul Band days of the early 60's, he was a part of the "Mersey Beat" scene.There was a programme last Friday on BBC4 "Rock Family Trees" detailing the History of The Mersey Beat, if anyone gets a chance to record it,sit back and enjoy this nostalgia drenched gem f a programme.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:45:18 -0000

I have to admit Janny that we were lucky enough to escape without any Al Martino. But I also have to say that it was played all the time at St Stephens primary school disco when ah were a bairn, so I did manage to have to endure it every week for a good while.

I am not a big Alex Harvey fan Charlie, but I do agree that Frankie Miller was great as the hard man in 'Only a boys Game.' That line 'McCafferty your teas oot' will go down as an absolute classic.

What all this has to do with Lusty Dusty and the Merseybeats is anyones guess Jimmy, Its just one of these posts that going slightly off track. For what its worth I still prefer Dusty O'Brien any day of the week to the Merseybeats.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

admin — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:21:18 -0000

You have all excelled at talking about everything but the subject hahahahhaha nice to know that your memories of you mum and dads parties are still vivid, not sure what dusty and the merseybeats have in common with it though.. Been away too long from auld toon I spose..

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Charlie — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:07:15 -0000

Got to mention "Blanket On The Ground!" Billy Jo Speirs, a lot of duff country songs, my ma used to play some mad midland Country and Western kid on Cowboy band singing "Tequila Sheila" hours on end,that was my worse nightmare come true, apart from Engleberts "That Promise!" All my uncles all joined in with that one line ".....all because of the boy!" WHAT BOY? Nobody knew his name? But they all had a misty tear in their eye for that one line!! Mental,eh? Maybe I gatecrashed your parties Chris, who knows? Altogether now! "Darlin' feelin' kind a lonely!..." Here Jimmy we will need to do something on 2 of Glasgows finest Sons Frankie Miller and Alex Harvey. Who will ever forget Frankie Millers debut acting performance in Peter McDougalls "Just A Boys Game" "Your Teas Oot!" What chanters him and Alex "Scotlands Answer To Tommy Steele!" Harvey were! Class acts.

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Janny — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:19:17 -0000

Sacha Distel and Al Martino in our house - who could forget "Spannish Eyes" - still sends shivers down my spine when I hear it!

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:16:24 -0000

Either we are related Charlie, or you gate crashed some of my relatives parties during the 1970s. 'Sweet Caroline' was another standard to go with 'Cracklin Rosie,' and Frankie Millers 'Darlin' was never off at my auntie Maizies around 1978/79. There was also (I have to admit) some seriusly bad country and western stuff incuding a Patsy Cline LP with a blue cover.

As for my uncles ability to drink I think they put Shane McGowan to shame, and they did not take Lou Reed either.

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Charlie — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:13:24 -0000

Another Neil Diamond party song "Sweet Caroline!" I still reel from being haunted by the awful "Glesga Country and Western" songs "The Blackboard Of My Heart" "She Wears My Ring" the endless Patsy Cline aunties wailing "Crazy for feeling so lonely!" Do you remember whenever you met an Auntie, they would kiss you with bright red lipstick on the cheek, then take a hanky out their pocket, spit on it!!! Then smudge the lipstick all over your face with said "wet hanky" Is that just a Glasgow thing? Spot on Chris about the uncles iron constitution for drinking all night at festive parties, God they were made of stern stuff, all of my uncles would have a fry up soon as their bleary eyes were half awake! Then back on the bevvy.Kinda strange how you miss those Frankie Millers "Darlin'" singalongs now and again.

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JimmyTheMod — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:25:45 -0000

N.G check your gravatar setting you havent selected a picture to display so it reverts to default.

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N.G. MODS — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:56:41 -0000

Charlie, Jimmy whats happened too ma avatar ? also when will we be seeing that video footage I leant you ?

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:47:22 -0000

I had always thought that it was only our mob that was involved in such jiggery pokery. The parties were always at their best (or worst) at Christmas and New Year. Some of my uncles could drink all night, go to sleep for a few hours, wake up at about 7 and then start again. God only knows how they did it.

One of the more popular songs for our lot were the Neil Diamond one's like 'Cracklin Rosie.' Ah such memories of rubbish songs being sung.

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Charlie — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:58:39 -0000

One of my relatives parties I remember them all singing along to "Bad Moon Rising" by "C.C,R" One of my uncles was singing "there's a bathroom on the right!" I was laughing my socks off! Even now when I hear the song I sing those words, another 2 party singalongs "Delilah" by Tom Jones and "Its Only Make Believe!" by Conway Twitty. Your right about the parties seemed to go on for days and days Chris, very good parties indeed!

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:44:16 -0000

You are probably right about wee Bertie NG. But I'm sure the Scotland fans sang back 'Go Now.' (not the Moody Blues, I know they did not do the original before anyone has a flakey)

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

N.G. MODS — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:02:44 -0000

A good party song when one was hauf cut was the Small Faces "Afterglow" great sing-a-long record as for "Please Stay" I'm sure I heard Berti Vogts singing it as I was leaving Hampden one Saturday afternoon haha

Re: Dusty and The MerseyBeats

Chris C — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:55:19 -0000

I know exactly what you mean about the parties that used to go on at relatives houses. I remember in my youth that these bashes seemed to go on for days on end. Brilliant drunken shambles that always included a sing song. I don't remember anyone being so drunk that they sang 'Please Stay' though Charlie.

All joking aside I don't remember exactly what songs were chanted, but I'm sure that 'Ten Guitars' was a standard.